Photos, Video and Analysis from Gaza Protest March in NYC (Part 2)
Published January 03, 2009 @ 08:28PM PT
Some clips from today's protest, for your viewing pleasure....
New York's Rude Mechanical Orchestra:
One of the leaders leading a chant:
Coverage of the march by NY1, a local news station (follow the link).
This is a video I found on YouTube that got decent sound from a speech. I don't know who is speaking, but I could hear reference early on to fighting "by all means necessary." *shudder*. Some things just don't translate well from American culture to Middle East culture.
For the record, I could barely understand what the speakers on the sound truck were saying. That could be me; my hearing isn't great. It sounded angry though.
One of the nice things I heard today was a guy being interviewed who seemed to be part of the organizer team. He was telling a fellow blogger about how the Palestinians are willing to accept a historic compromise (i.e., a two state solution) but that the Israelis won't accept it. I'm glad he was part of the group leading the protests. Most of the time, it felt like this crowd was not that interested in compromise. (Exceptions to follow.)
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Recently, I was speaking with an investment counselor re: why I want socially responsible investments and specifically, do not want to invest in US Treasury Bonds as my money may end up in a war zone or going to Israel. The counselor promptly asked what my problem with Israel is. I spoke of Israel’s blatant disregard for: human rights of Palestinians, and UN resolutions condemning same, and Geneva Conventions. He mentioned he is Jewish and firmly believes in Israel’s right to defend itself, since, after all, Jews have been victims for centuries. I acknowledged that, indeed, Jews have been persecuted at the hands of Christians as well as Muslims, but that doesn’t make it moral for them to commit similar atrocities against Palestinians. He then asked me, “How many Noble Prize winners have been Palestinians?” To which he answered himself, “None. Many Jewish people have won prizes and that’s why we should support Israel: they contribute to the world.” I was taken aback, and continue to ponder this. Does a Nobel Prize winner have more right to exist over a Palestinian farmer? Who decides who lives and who dies? [For the record, I found at least three Egyptian Nobel Laureates, one Iranian, and one Palestinian, Yasar Arafat, for peace.] This reminds me of the Lifeboat exercise that is often done for teambuilding. This is a [paper] group exercise whereby a ship is sinking and only x number of people can fit in the lifeboat. Participants decide who gets in the lifeboat. Typically, scientists, doctors, and children are chosen, while elderly and disabled folks and those whose skills aren’t as valued are left behind. [The exercise so upset me that, when doing teambuilding with groups, I substitute the 10 Essentials problem, where participants decide which items are chosen to go into to a survival backpack.] When the Titanic went down, passengers in the poor section, steerage, were left behind. ‘Women and children first’ is often the rule. We who are living in affluent countries already choose who gets in the lifeboat. We choose among our own countryfolk who will get financial aid and who won’t, based on criteria utilizing values of the time. We choose who in the international community gets aid and how much and who doesn’t because we are boycotting them. [So Cubans aren’t valued because of ‘human rights violations’, although the US, China, Saudi Arabia are guilty of violating human rights.] Darfur and other genocidal African nations aren’t getting as much aid as those allies who are of strategic importance. Israel, Egypt, and Pakistan top the aid list—Israel uses its aid to purchase weapons from US manufacturers, whereas the others have a mixed menu. These nations are touted as democracies surrounded by terrorists, justifying huge aid packages. Well, Palestine has a constitution, unlike Israel who never produced one, and held democratic [according to sources who watched] fair elections. The US didn’t like the outcome when Hamas won Gaza. Given a chance to be a fully functioning nation, without walls and checkpoints preventing livelihood and visits from families and to hospitals, without having its elected officials sitting in Israeli jails, without house demolitions and settlements occupied by foreigners, with Palestinian homes to go to instead of packed refugee camps in many countries, perhaps Palestine could be democratic and therefore worthy of being an ally. Perhaps Palestinians could sit in the lifeboat. Some may say, “the government is doing all this choosing.” Well, in a democracy, We the People are the Government. Our silence allows the powerful, rich lobbies, like American Israeli PAC and Weapons Manufacturers, to influence our elected officials. Our apathy pushes underserved people out of the lifeboat. Our voices must be heard. Our elected officials work for us, they are our employees. Our votes count. We must tell our employees that People count, not corporation profits; that we want our tax dollars spent for diplomacy, peace, negotiations, fairness, justice, not wars. It is time to speak up now, before falling from the lifeboat.
Posted by kath glatz on 01/06/2009 @ 10:22AM PT
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During the years 1992-1996 I lived and worked in Israel. In the beginning because of all the bad publicity I was afraid of Palestinians. It grew worse once I arrived in Israel it bacame worse from words coming from the Israelis. I began traveling on my own through-out the West Bank. I became friends with some Palestinian Christians, in the beginning. They made me quite aware of how things really were. I began to make friends with Islamic Palestinians; they told the same stories. All of them were about their Occupation; how they had to live, how they had to travel, (no one in the territories could move with out ID paperwork. It must be shown at each and every military out post and there were many.) what kind of jobs they "had to take", (how they could not enter Israel before dawn and exit at sun set , in order to have these jobs you had to have "special paperwork") I could go on and on.
It soon became obvious to me of the Palestinian oppression. I have seen: persons (old and young; men women and children) held at check points for hours in the scorching Sun. I have be in the middle of a machine gun "fight" between Palestinian children with rocks and Israeli Soldiers with the machine guns. Matter of fact; the soldiers blocked my American car, displaying American License Plates, in a Parking spot while they shot at the children (and they were young 12-15). When I went out to move my car the soldiers told me I could not move it. Stupidly I moved it anyway; only to have the soldiers move their vehicles; again next to my car. When I got out they demanded to see my Passport. I showed them some papers; along with my Passport and they let me go.
What I really want to say to the world, especially the United States of America is that the Israelis have been brain washing the U.S. Citizens for so many years, (since WWII) we all have come to believe in the terrorist Palestinians. This goes on to this day. In our media, movies, newspapers etc.. The Palestinians want their "FREEDOM", to live life as anyone's God believes; and as Thomas Jefferson, in our "Declaration of Independence" so eloquently stated "Life,Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness".
When I began meeting Palestinians I never heard the word Hamas. As the years passed the Peace Treaties" were broken, "not by the Palestinians; however made to look as if it were their fault) the word and definition of Hamas became more apparent. When I left Israel there were maybe 30% (to my knowledge) of the population were Hamas, now look at them. I believe Hamas is due to the Israeli Occupation. They are Freedom Fighters not terrorists; do not the Israelis remember the Irgun; the Israeli Freedom fighters, Begin, Perez, Rabin and there were more. Jimmy Carter: " Peace Not Aparteid"GIVE THE PALESTINIANS THEIR FREEDOM - STOP THE GAZA GENOCIDE. "Lest We Forget the Halocaust".
Posted by Terry Alexander on 01/06/2009 @ 11:46AM PT
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